Show Notes for Episode 8: David Brin and the 2020 Hugo Finalists for Best Professional Artist

In episode 8 of Essence of Wonder, world-renowned author and public intellectual, David Brin, and the Hugo Awards finalists for Best Professional Artist, joined Gadi, Karen Castelletti, and Sara Felix. Tammy Coxen came back to teach us how to mix The Hugo Cocktail.

The episode was recorded in front of a live audience.

Guests

Videos

Part 1: David Brin Interview, Reading, and Song (and NASA/SpaceX Manned Launch!),
Part 2: Hugo Finalists for Best Professional Artist – 2020

All clips available here.

Readings

Excerpt from Gorilla My Dreams by David Brin.

References

Quotes from the Show

“New Zealands Jacinda Ardern should be President of Earth…”

— David Brin on women in leadership, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“There is a unique resonance of awe and wonder between the visual and written arts in science fiction and fantasy, which isn’t quite explainable.”

— Gadi Evron on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“If you’re the writer, you’re the sadist who dangles hints and suspense, and you want to appeal to the reader’s masochism. Don’t you love being tormented, when YOU are the reader?”

— David Brin on keeping fans keen, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Wait, I’m going to interrupt you rudely. NASA. You said NASA. Talk to me about NASA, Sir…”

— Gadi Evron to David Brin on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Nobody screwed up the galaxy, that’s our job. Yet.”

— David Brin on Humans, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Holding each other accountable is how we get past our delusions.”

— David Brin quoting Pericles from Thucydides, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Our [Humans] type of intelligence is very rare, we are an incredible fluke.”

— David Brin on humanity, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“If I had been at the battle of the Somme watching the flower of my generation mowed down by the tools of modernity, I might have turned on modernity too.”

— David Brin on Tolkien, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“We are being taught zero-sum thinking, which was applicable in most human civilizations, but the fundamental premise of our civilization is what’s called the positive sum-game. You can be many. You can be more than one thing.”

— David Brin on modern civilization, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Civilization is worth fighting for”

— David Brin on modern civilization, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Those are footprints in the snow, I’m already trying to get to some cave of safety way beyond, that has nothing to do with those footprints.”

— Tommy Arnold on his previous work, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“It’s hard for me to imagine anything less up my alley than standing with my art talking about it for a long time.”

— Tommy Arnold on just wanting to create art, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Why is it we have not seen signs of the vast, extensive human civilization that we intend to create up there, Ideally with the morality that has been informed by Star Trek, and that is trying to be good.”

— David Brin on life in the galaxy and the fermi paradox, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“They want us to… Forget building a society of honest institutions and professionals who hold each other accountable, that’s not the path, we must return to obeisance to demigods.”

— David Brin on wrong storylines, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“My dream was to become the Frank Frazetta of the next generation.”

— Yuko Shizumi on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“For those who think that science fiction is all about science, it was badly named, it should have been called speculative history.”

–David Brin on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“It’s a great point that often the change that a whole fantasy arc will make by the end is a single change for a hierarchy that still exists.”

— Karen Castelletti on story arcs, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“And it’s not a matter of this person doing it so much better than this person, it’s just a matter of WOW, how incredibly awesome are these two answers to this question.”

— Galen Dara on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“Voice can be unavoidable. Most of my work was personal, you can only use your voice because you’re not collaborating.”

— Alyssa Winans on art, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“[On first job] ‘You’re the artist, you figure it out.’ It didn’t hurt me, but it made me think.”

— John Picacio on being creative, Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“George Lucas is just a frikkin ingrate.”

— David Brin on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

“It’s the wanting of change that is the heresy that Science Fiction commits against the Mother Genre of Fantasy.”

— David Brin on Essence of Wonder with Gadi Evron, episode 8.

Hosts

Karen Castelletti
Gadi Evron

Production Team

Daria Medved
John Dodd
Ian Stockdale
Katie Anderson
Alan Bond
Dragos Ruiu
Margarita Jaitner
Daniel Goldberg
Niamh Kearney
Michael Rafferty
Gadi Evron
Karen Castelletti


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